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		<title>By: John McLear</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-7735</link>
		<dc:creator>John McLear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey steve, I&#039;m using your plugin quite successfully after applying some tweeks to enforce public only.  However (and this may not be relevant to allplugin) when I&#039;m setting a page to public its not actually available until a user has logged in.  Any idea on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey steve, I&#8217;m using your plugin quite successfully after applying some tweeks to enforce public only.  However (and this may not be relevant to allplugin) when I&#8217;m setting a page to public its not actually available until a user has logged in.  Any idea on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3276</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it doesn&#039;t. These are tools that are pretty standard. I&#039;ve had them for years on discussion forums, blogs, etc.

Elgg will probably be fine for my simple uses: a very closed environment for a school setting. But in terms of a tool for a real social network in the real world. I think it still needs a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t. These are tools that are pretty standard. I&#8217;ve had them for years on discussion forums, blogs, etc.</p>
<p>Elgg will probably be fine for my simple uses: a very closed environment for a school setting. But in terms of a tool for a real social network in the real world. I think it still needs a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Knauss</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3274</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Knauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Steve.

It seems Elgg does not do IP logging and does not even have a way to ban or moderate users or their activity. That&#039;s rough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve.</p>
<p>It seems Elgg does not do IP logging and does not even have a way to ban or moderate users or their activity. That&#8217;s rough.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3272</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe, but this is what I am able to do and it works for me. I wrote nopublic for school use and somebody asked me if I could make an all public variant and I did. I certainly don&#039;t have the skill set to rewrite the core access. God knows, I tried. Somebody pointed to the views and I found a way to do what I needed to do.

It apples to created content that has an access toggle: blog posts, bookmarks, pages, etc.

It has no impact on group settings.

No, admins do not have the ability to change permissions. I would like that that though.

I&#039;d certainly welcome a ACL rewrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, but this is what I am able to do and it works for me. I wrote nopublic for school use and somebody asked me if I could make an all public variant and I did. I certainly don&#8217;t have the skill set to rewrite the core access. God knows, I tried. Somebody pointed to the views and I found a way to do what I needed to do.</p>
<p>It apples to created content that has an access toggle: blog posts, bookmarks, pages, etc.</p>
<p>It has no impact on group settings.</p>
<p>No, admins do not have the ability to change permissions. I would like that that though.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d certainly welcome a ACL rewrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Knauss</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3271</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Knauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=680#comment-3271</guid>
		<description>Theoretically, wouldn&#039;t it be better to write a custom ACL and just replace the default one? Or a plugin that gives admins control over default permissions for every possible kind of content or group? 

Question about this plugin: does it apply to everything? Groups, photos, pages, forum posts, comments, message board posts?

I can see I am probably going to need to figure out how to make most things public by default, but not everything. 

Do admins have the ability to change permissions on other users&#039; content?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theoretically, wouldn&#8217;t it be better to write a custom ACL and just replace the default one? Or a plugin that gives admins control over default permissions for every possible kind of content or group? </p>
<p>Question about this plugin: does it apply to everything? Groups, photos, pages, forum posts, comments, message board posts?</p>
<p>I can see I am probably going to need to figure out how to make most things public by default, but not everything. </p>
<p>Do admins have the ability to change permissions on other users&#8217; content?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3190</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tested on IE7 and Windows FF and it worked fine.

There was a gallery plugin that allowed tagging. I think it was Artfolio. I don&#039;t recall if tidypics does that or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tested on IE7 and Windows FF and it worked fine.</p>
<p>There was a gallery plugin that allowed tagging. I think it was Artfolio. I don&#8217;t recall if tidypics does that or not.</p>
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		<title>By: messianics</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3188</link>
		<dc:creator>messianics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i guess the problem have to be with me then... 
b.t.w do you have a clue if there is a plugin that is abling you to tag your friends on photos just like in facebook?
thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i guess the problem have to be with me then&#8230;<br />
b.t.w do you have a clue if there is a plugin that is abling you to tag your friends on photos just like in facebook?<br />
thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3187</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tested this on my server, and it works fine. 

The code that is changed from the core is the following:

if (isset($vars[&#039;class&#039;])) $class = $vars[&#039;class&#039;];
	if (!$class) $class = &quot;input-access&quot;;

		if ((!isset($vars[&#039;options&#039;])) &#124;&#124; (!is_array($vars[&#039;options&#039;])))
		{
			$vars[&#039;options&#039;] = array();
			$vars[&#039;options&#039;] = get_write_access_array();
			&lt;strong&gt;unset($vars[&#039;options&#039;][1]); 
			unset($vars[&#039;options&#039;][0]); &lt;/strong&gt;
		}
		
		if (is_array($vars[&#039;options&#039;]) &amp;&amp; sizeof($vars[&#039;options&#039;]) &gt; 0) {	 
			 
The text in bold was added to the core access.php file in this override. I would give this a try on a clean install of Elgg without other plugins activated. You could activate the plugins one by one testing each time. You might also change the order in which the plugins load.

You could also try it on the most recent checkout at the Elgg svn repository.

I suppose it might be browser related, although I have not heard anyone else mention this. I have tried it with Mac Safari and Mac Firefox. I can test it with Linux when I get home. I don&#039;t have a windows box, but I&#039;ll see if I can get on one to try it out. 

Beyond that it is tough to work these things out remotely as each server is configured differently with a complex system of variables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tested this on my server, and it works fine. </p>
<p>The code that is changed from the core is the following:</p>
<p>if (isset($vars['class'])) $class = $vars['class'];<br />
	if (!$class) $class = &#8220;input-access&#8221;;</p>
<p>		if ((!isset($vars['options'])) || (!is_array($vars['options'])))<br />
		{<br />
			$vars['options'] = array();<br />
			$vars['options'] = get_write_access_array();<br />
			<strong>unset($vars['options'][1]);<br />
			unset($vars['options'][0]); </strong><br />
		}</p>
<p>		if (is_array($vars['options']) &#038;&#038; sizeof($vars['options']) > 0) {	 </p>
<p>The text in bold was added to the core access.php file in this override. I would give this a try on a clean install of Elgg without other plugins activated. You could activate the plugins one by one testing each time. You might also change the order in which the plugins load.</p>
<p>You could also try it on the most recent checkout at the Elgg svn repository.</p>
<p>I suppose it might be browser related, although I have not heard anyone else mention this. I have tried it with Mac Safari and Mac Firefox. I can test it with Linux when I get home. I don&#8217;t have a windows box, but I&#8217;ll see if I can get on one to try it out. </p>
<p>Beyond that it is tough to work these things out remotely as each server is configured differently with a complex system of variables.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3181</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give it another look later today. It is very possible that it conflicts with another plugin though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give it another look later today. It is very possible that it conflicts with another plugin though.</p>
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		<title>By: messianic jews</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3178</link>
		<dc:creator>messianic jews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ineed i&#039;m using the 1.2 allpublic version but problem still exist, tryed to reinstall but its not helping...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ineed i&#8217;m using the 1.2 allpublic version but problem still exist, tryed to reinstall but its not helping&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3173</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All my access plugins have been updated:

http://openedweb.com/elggwiki/index.php?title=Allpublic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All my access plugins have been updated:</p>
<p><a href="http://openedweb.com/elggwiki/index.php?title=Allpublic" rel="nofollow">http://openedweb.com/elggwiki/index.php?title=Allpublic</a></p>
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		<title>By: ?????? ???????</title>
		<link>http://openedweb.com/blog/2008/11/06/all-public-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-3172</link>
		<dc:creator>?????? ???????</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=680#comment-3172</guid>
		<description>Hi!
after installing the &quot;allpublic&quot; it seems to work great, but one problem
i&#039;m using elgg 1.2 and this is the problem, if you click the &quot;Access:&quot; button, even though there is nothing but public, it will suddently freeze and get stuck and close the browser...

any idea?
thanks!
Eitan
Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
after installing the &#8220;allpublic&#8221; it seems to work great, but one problem<br />
i&#8217;m using elgg 1.2 and this is the problem, if you click the &#8220;Access:&#8221; button, even though there is nothing but public, it will suddently freeze and get stuck and close the browser&#8230;</p>
<p>any idea?<br />
thanks!<br />
Eitan<br />
Israel.</p>
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