Comments on: Elgg and BuddyPress compared part 1 http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/ Education and Technology Fri, 11 May 2012 08:29:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jimmy http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-30680 Jimmy Fri, 15 Apr 2011 04:01:45 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-30680 This is an old post I know, but just wanted to thank you for comparing these two Open Source solutions. I wonder if there's an updated post about the same thing. I've found many pages comparing other solutions such as Ning, Mingle, Dolphin and jCow, but only yours Buddypress and Elgg. The hard-to-customize front page is putting me off Elgg. But I wonder if that's changed in more recent editions. Anyway, I think I am going to go with BuddyPress because I am familiar with Wordpress - so customization shouldn't be too much of a problem. This is an old post I know, but just wanted to thank you for comparing these two Open Source solutions. I wonder if there’s an updated post about the same thing.

I’ve found many pages comparing other solutions such as Ning, Mingle, Dolphin and jCow, but only yours Buddypress and Elgg.

The hard-to-customize front page is putting me off Elgg. But I wonder if that’s changed in more recent editions.

Anyway, I think I am going to go with BuddyPress because I am familiar with WordPress – so customization shouldn’t be too much of a problem.

]]> By: Is ELGG an answer? http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-12700 Is ELGG an answer? Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:42:02 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-12700 [...] an interesting Comparison of ELGG and Buddypress, and another of Facebook, Ning and [...] [...] an interesting Comparison of ELGG and Buddypress, and another of Facebook, Ning and [...]

]]> By: Scott http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10731 Scott Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:04:55 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-10731 Hi, Steve. I'm the Content & Marketing Manager for a company that is building a BP based social networking tool intended for classrooms. We're in the process now of signing up schools to take part in our pilot program. It seems like you might be interested in building your own tool from scratch, but if you're inclined to take part in our program, or want more info, please contact me at: scottd@wishb.com. Hi, Steve. I’m the Content & Marketing Manager for a company that is building a BP based social networking tool intended for classrooms. We’re in the process now of signing up schools to take part in our pilot program.

It seems like you might be interested in building your own tool from scratch, but if you’re inclined to take part in our program, or want more info, please contact me at: scottd@wishb.com.

]]> By: Steve http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10598 Steve Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:15:45 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-10598 Actually, I haven't gone any particular route. I am in somewhat of a holding pattern with a new superintendent and NYSED is starting to formulate a Tech Plan and hopefully some policies. Once I have a sense of what is permissible, I intend to proceed. I have also gotten a bit weary of those who don't (or won't) get it within my district and have attempted to thwart attempts to work this technology into our school. I have continued using WPMu for student Blogging in a walled garden setting. The blogs can be password protected with WordPressMu and BuddyPress using the More Privacy Plugin. I concur on the maturity of the WP platform and community, but Buddy Press has to juggle a lot of separate pieces to hold itself together. I see that bbPress has finally exited the alpha stage which is good. I agree with your final point wholeheartedly. Actually, I haven’t gone any particular route. I am in somewhat of a holding pattern with a new superintendent and NYSED is starting to formulate a Tech Plan and hopefully some policies.

Once I have a sense of what is permissible, I intend to proceed. I have also gotten a bit weary of those who don’t (or won’t) get it within my district and have attempted to thwart attempts to work this technology into our school.

I have continued using WPMu for student Blogging in a walled garden setting.

The blogs can be password protected with WordPressMu and BuddyPress using the More Privacy Plugin.

I concur on the maturity of the WP platform and community, but Buddy Press has to juggle a lot of separate pieces to hold itself together. I see that bbPress has finally exited the alpha stage which is good.

I agree with your final point wholeheartedly.

]]> By: Comment to Steve O’Connor « Socializing the Network http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10597 Comment to Steve O’Connor « Socializing the Network Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:12:11 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-10597 [...] July 31, 2009 by markpea I posted a comment today in Steve’s Openedweb blog on Elgg and BuddyPress compared part 1 [...] [...] July 31, 2009 by markpea I posted a comment today in Steve’s Openedweb blog on Elgg and BuddyPress compared part 1 [...]

]]> By: Mark Pearson http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10596 Mark Pearson Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:57:23 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-10596 Well Steve, Since you published this article it looks like you've gone the BuddyPress route. One thing intrigues me though. How have you (if at all) modified the default 'visibility' of blog postings? I cannot image a K-12 school system being content with web-wide read access to their pupil's blog content. I'm taking another look at Elgg - BuddyPress/WP MU - Mahara. The big deal for me is that the WP blogging engine is mature, powerful and yet easy to use and for me, and I think other educational establishments, the focus needs to be on student's creation of quality content with social networking as a lever and catalyst to that content rather than the froth that gets generated on sites like Facebook. Mark Well Steve,
Since you published this article it looks like you’ve gone the BuddyPress route. One thing intrigues me though. How have you (if at all) modified the default ‘visibility’ of blog postings? I cannot image a K-12 school system being content with web-wide read access to their pupil’s blog content. I’m taking another look at Elgg – BuddyPress/WP MU – Mahara. The big deal for me is that the WP blogging engine is mature, powerful and yet easy to use and for me, and I think other educational establishments, the focus needs to be on student’s creation of quality content with social networking as a lever and catalyst to that content rather than the froth that gets generated on sites like Facebook.
Mark

]]> By: Guy Incognito http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6083 Guy Incognito Thu, 14 May 2009 15:26:15 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-6083 Elgg is ugly as sin, a pain to theme and has poor usability. But it's stable and has all the features anyone would need. BuddyPress is elegant, easy to theme and has stellar usability. But it's still in development and it's lacking a lot of features. I mean, the only thing you can do in a group is post a comment to the wire. No pages. No files. No pictures. No collaboration. So I'd say... put up with Elgg if you need something right now... or... if you can... wait a year and go with BuddyPress. It will be the hands down winner in the end. Unless Elgg cleans up their interface and usability and makes theme development easier. Elgg is ugly as sin, a pain to theme and has poor usability. But it’s stable and has all the features anyone would need.

BuddyPress is elegant, easy to theme and has stellar usability. But it’s still in development and it’s lacking a lot of features. I mean, the only thing you can do in a group is post a comment to the wire. No pages. No files. No pictures. No collaboration.

So I’d say… put up with Elgg if you need something right now… or… if you can… wait a year and go with BuddyPress. It will be the hands down winner in the end. Unless Elgg cleans up their interface and usability and makes theme development easier.

]]> By: Elgg and BuddyPress compared: new user | openedweb.com http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3225 Elgg and BuddyPress compared: new user | openedweb.com Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:16:20 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-3225 [...] Subscribe to feed ‹ Elgg and BuddyPress compared part 1 [...] [...] Subscribe to feed ‹ Elgg and BuddyPress compared part 1 [...]

]]> By: Steve http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3195 Steve Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:30:05 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-3195 Terry-- My install seems pretty solid--especially for a beta WPMU, beta BP, and alpha bbPress! There is a new index.php override plugin at the Elgg community site. It looks more like the BuddyPress configuration, but is two column (and has a different color scheme). The code could easily be copied and pasted to move or delete elements. I'd think snippets of code for other modifications will show up soon. Terry–

My install seems pretty solid–especially for a beta WPMU, beta BP, and alpha bbPress!

There is a new index.php override plugin at the Elgg community site. It looks more like the BuddyPress configuration, but is two column (and has a different color scheme). The code could easily be copied and pasted to move or delete elements. I’d think snippets of code for other modifications will show up soon.

]]> By: Steve http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3193 Steve Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:19:30 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-3193 Well, some BuddyPress Devs have chimed in here. Perhaps they can respond to that. Well, some BuddyPress Devs have chimed in here. Perhaps they can respond to that.

]]> By: Tradenet http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3189 Tradenet Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:19:52 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-3189 Frankly there a lot of things to ponder here. Buddpress/bbpress/WMu is way too "Hodge-Podge". Relying on different streams of developers. I find this extremely "security risky". IMHO. Now if some the Elgg plugin developers can get their act together and not touch the core program to me that's way more "security solid". Frankly there a lot of things to ponder here. Buddpress/bbpress/WMu is way too “Hodge-Podge”. Relying on different streams of developers. I find this extremely “security risky”. IMHO.

Now if some the Elgg plugin developers can get their act together and not touch the core program to me that’s way more “security solid”.

]]> By: Steve http://openedweb.com/blog/2009/01/19/elgg-and-buddypress-compared-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3183 Steve Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:30:16 +0000 http://openedweb.com/blog/?p=993#comment-3183 No doubt, both platforms have room for development and growth. I look forward to watching them mature. No doubt, both platforms have room for development and growth. I look forward to watching them mature.

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