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I agree that the lack of a forum is a bit of a downer. However, I wonder what would happen if someone wrote a free forum plugin as an alternative to the one provided by the developers. This would presumably not be too hard to do by adapting an existing open source forum. Is there an Apple style approval process for accepting plugins on their site? Does the license prohibit making alternatives to the plugins provided by the developers? (I can’t see how this would be compatible with most open source licenses, but I’m not too familiar with the CPAL.) If not, then I can’t see how the price of $20 will be sustainable because competition would push it down to the marginal cost of $0.
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Hi Steve,
Emil from Oxwall here. Thank you for your insightful review. I wanted to comment on the point you make.
Agree that Oxwall gets “flat no” as an alternative to Ning (and it’s not being touted as such). Not because some plugins are paid.
The real alternative for Ning is Wall.fm – hosted service that anyone with some social networking experience can master. Oxwall as a software package makes you care about hosting, servers, troubleshooting problems (like recompiling Apache) and is unrealistic solution for the wide audience. Majority of people just will not install software no matter how desperate they get in search for a direct comprehensive alternative. So comparison of Ning and Oxwall is a little bit of apples-oranges type.
The beauty of the tandem (Wall.fm Oxwall) is like this: Oxwall serves as a guarantee of your content ownership and ability to go independent from Wall.fm if you choose to. Also it’s for those know their way through hosting setups, installation, custom development and such. On the other hand Wall.fm is “Oxwall for simple mortals”, a commodity – anyone can start within minutes. Forum is free on Wall.fm
Apart from that both projects have different business models: Wall.fm is “fremium” – basic plan is free and ad-supported, some features and extra storage are paid. Oxwall is “open core” – platform free and open source, some features are paid.
Would love to hear your take on licensing.
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I have looked at Oxwall, Elgg and a pile of others and I have to say I am left bewildered.
My problem is that I have been using Liferay with an online game that is very Java based. Liferay Portlal 6 (free community edition) with its social network style portlets is just stunning. Incredibly powerful, flexible and with, as standard, just about everything you need. Forums, blogs, galleries, document management, CMS, Communities, customisable roles, user groups, walls, chat, and the rest.
But the damned thing needs a server that can run Tomcat (or other java servlet container), so is useless outside of a dedicated server with a nice pile of ram.
Surely there must be something out there that comes at least a little way towards the ease of Liferay, but runs on PhP and a virtual?
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Just a quick note for Steve and others:
1) We made all essential social networking plugins (including forum) free.
2) We have created a bridge for seamless migration from Wall.fm to Oxwall for free in case anyone wants to start on Wall.fm and decide they want to move with Oxwall.Also, those who wondered about plugin approval process for our Oxwall store – we will definitely employ an approval process which will make it clean of a lot of duplicate functionality and/or half-baked plugins. On the other hand nothing prevents anyone from installing whatever plugins they come across, we just want to keep the inventory of the main resource comprehensive and high-grade.
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Hi guys,
Has anybody managed to install oxwall on wamp server, there seems to be an issues with the database connection.it displays “Could not connect to Database ” but my configurations seems just fine. can somebody help? -
Hi guys,
Has anybody managed to install oxwall on wamp server, there seems to be an issues with the database connection.it displays “Could not connect to Database ” but my configurations seems just fine. can somebody help? -
Eli,
A lot of problems like this get resolved in our forum: http://www.oxwall.org/forum That’s the best place to ask.
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Thought I’d give it another try. I have just left ning and installed oxwall from my cpanel at hostgator and found it extremely impressive. WAY better than ning I’d say. I am truly VERY impressed. It works for my non-profit Christian site. Will recommend it ANY TIME>
BUT… I have a problem and have been asking for help since last Friday. no-one seems to notice my outcry.
My problem is as follows: Cannot upload avatars. Keep on getting a message “please choose an image file” and my members from my 3 year old ning site are busy signing up and all of them want to know from me why they cannot upload their profile pictures. Also the system reports everybody online forever… even though they are logged off and PC’s truned off.. the system still says they are online. Then I also cannot change the colours in any theme or upload my logo. We had a beautiful branded ning site but I was never happy with it’s functionality. Oxwall is way easier to use and more facebook like to my opinion (for my purposes though). So I would love to get the teething problems sorted out.Hopefully Emil can shed some light on the problem. The QUICK install in the CPANEL does obviously NOT set it up in detail because things aren’t working correctly at the moment. I don’t know OXWALL enough to
understand what the issue is and how to fix it.
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